In this podcast Patrick Gray talks to Tom Uren about a new Recorded Future report that collates evidence of Russian intelligence service links to cybercriminals. There’s a lot of circumstantial evidence, but it feels more like the state uses criminals opportunistically rather than systematically.

The FBI disruption and takedown of the Hive ransomware crew is a huge success and Tom and Patrick examine the tradeoffs about exactly when to seize Hive’s servers.

They also discuss the different approaches the US and Singapore government are taking to counter scam robocalls and SMS messages.